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Old Feb 06, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33   #1
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after one too many bad team in RA, i've decided to help raise the average IQ of your average GW player by writing a few tips and suggestions. this article will be the first of a few articles i have planned. the articles will be straightforward and will be very blunt. if you are a tard, and your ego cannot take the thorough beating it deserves, then please close your GW client, uninstall it, and /wrist yourself. if you wish to learn, then read on.

warrior

overview

melee characters with the highest armor value in the game, all the while packing a scary amount of offensive punch. they are also fairly easy to play, as they can cause a surprising amount of damage by just hitting frenzy and c spacebar. a well-played warrior can eclipse the damage potential of any other profession (yes, even one of you mindless assassins). a poorly-played warrior is worse than useless.

the good builds

these builds have been tested time and time again, and all have been proven to be very potent. use these builds if you wish to get better. NOTE: there are other strong warrior builds, but i'm not going to list them because they do not always perform well in the RA setting. NOTE2: every build will feature two stances: frenzy and a speed buff. use frenzy if you are not under attack, and quickly hit your speed buff if someone decides to hit you.

shock axe
W/E
axe = 12+1+1
str = 9+1
tac = 9+1
air = spare points
shock, eviscerate, executioner's strike, bull's strike/critical chop, frenzy, sprint, heal signet, rez sig

well-balanced warrior that can play in a variety of different styles. it is capable of a very strong spike, as well as pressure through the knockdowns.

dragon sword
W/
swo = 12+1+1
str = 9+1
tac = 9+1
sever artery, gash, sun and moon slash, dragon slash, frenzy, rush, healing signet, rez sig

a pure pressure warrior. its spike is not particularly strong, but it is able to keep up an elevated DPS by constantly recharging its adrenaline using dragon slash.

death's hammer
W/A
ham = 12+1+1
str = 9+1
tac = 9+1
shadow = spare points
death's charge, frenzy, devastating hammer, crushing blow, fierce blow, rush, healing signet, rez sig

a pure spike warrior. now almost completely surpassed by the eurospike warrior, but this build still have its uses. the instant teleport+KD spike is very powerful, and can potentially solo a 60 AL target with one spike.

eurospike warrior
W/A
axe = 12+1+1
str = 9+1
tac = 9+1
deadly = spare points
shadow prison, frenzy, dismember, executioner's strike, critical chop, rush, healing signet, rez signet

a pure spike warrior. it is a pretty mindless build that even a monkey can play well. shadow prison gives it an instant snare, and the spike skills can quickly bring down a target.

the bad builds
anything with healing breeze, mending, orison of healing, healing hands, bonnetti's defense, gladiator's defense, riposte, etc. if you play those builds, please go hit yourself with a hammer. these builds are almost 100% defense and no offense. these builds put forward zero pressure, and zero spike damage.

how to play warrior
the following only apply if you play one of the good builds i listed above.

in a skirmish (ei, RA) environment, you are responsible for two things: identifying the most dangerous target and taking it out, and identifying the support and taking it out. your priority targets are (decending): shutdown mesmers, shutdown necromancers, assassins, protection/healing monks, rangers, and other stuff. notice that i do not list monks on the top of that list. yes, it is often much better if you take out that shutdown mesmer/necromancer that turning your support (ei, your monk) into a useless piece of meat. you don't have to kill that target, but merely hit it/disrupt it enough so that they have to turn to their own protection. remember you are doing quite a bit of damage by just hitting them as well as charging your adrenaline attacks. this tactic also force their support to expend energy.

when using your attacks, remember to charge all of them up before using them. this is known as a spike, and can be very potent in that it can catch someone completely off guard. if you see an opening, unload your attack chain at the same time. this will very likely result in a kill unless a monk catches your spike. remember to switch targets often and never train a target mindlessly forever, unless you know you will kill that target in the next 6 seconds or so. you'll become extremely predictable for their support.

lastly, consider the calls that your teammates make. if your monk calls a target, drop whatever you are doing and go hit it. your monk will feel the blunt of all the damage that your team is taken, and will usually tell you if anything is giving him/her trouble.

conclusion

this article is a very basic overview of the warrior profession in pvp. hopefully, it will inform some of your r-tards as to how to play a warrior properly in RA and pvp in general.

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Old Feb 06, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #2
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This would be a better article if there was proper CaPiTaL uSagE.
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Old Feb 06, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #3
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too lazy, sorry.
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Old Feb 06, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #4
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Dude who cares what skills you got if you don't know how to use them,

You can't tell me a r10 Shock Warrior that knows when to use shock, adrenaline spike and watch out for over extended targets plays the same way a RA or AB noob would with the same build, who will probably just use shock until his exausted and use Executioner strike before Eviscerate.

But nice guide anyways lawl.


Initiative is what counts I suppose, so It's nice that you care .
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Old Feb 06, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37   #5
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I like Superior runes on my Warrior's weapon attribute.
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Old Feb 06, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #6
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Good article, but I doubt the people who need to read it will. Can always hope though.
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Old Feb 07, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #7
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I like Superior runes on my Warrior's weapon attribute.
This is personal preference, but most players don't run superiors in GvG due to the problems that you run into when you get into DP/VoD.
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Old Feb 07, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31   #8
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most people who need this don't read any forums, sadly
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Old Feb 07, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59   #9
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most people who need this don't read any forums, sadly
I truly, truly wish I could agree.
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Old Feb 07, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14   #10
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This is personal preference, but most players don't run superiors in GvG due to the problems that you run into when you get into DP/VoD.
It's really, really dependent on what you're doing. Let's say I'm playing with my guild, or I'm in Cow. I'll wear superior runes, because I don't plan on taking the match to VoD. I'm staying at the stand for a slugfest, I have anywhere from 2 to 2 and a half monks at all times, and I want things to die.

If I was splitting, however, I wouldn't use them. I doubt Smgz runs them (though I don't know for certain) because extra health is really handy when you're off alone and/or with no monk support.

In RA I would probably not run them because I can't guarantee there's a monk on my team.
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Old Feb 07, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32   #11
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I truly, truly wish I could agree.
Just because they POST on the forums doesn't neccessarily mean they READ them.

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This is personal preference, but most players don't run superiors in GvG due to the problems that you run into when you get into DP/VoD.
True, but this guide is hardly about GvG
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Old Feb 08, 2007, 02:42 AM // 02:42   #13
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the bad builds
anything with healing breeze, mending, orison of healing, healing hands, bonnetti's defense, gladiator's defense, riposte, etc. if you play those builds, please go hit yourself with a hammer.
Wha-?? You're trying to say it's not all about ME???
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Old Feb 08, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43   #14
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no, it's about ME nubcakes. get with the program

lol jk.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 06:26 AM // 06:26   #15
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Dude who cares what skills you got if you don't know how to use them
QFT - I'd rather have a wammo who knows when to use healing breeze than a shock axe who frenzies indiscriminately.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37   #16
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The next article will be on the ritualist. however, it will be a bit delayed because of my schedule. it should be out by the end of the week.

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Old Feb 11, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27   #17
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Has anyone else started experimenting with the new very-hard-to-dodge Water Trident yet? I'm starting to think that it may be superior to the old Shock Axe warrior (even though it is an elite skill, which kills the Executioner's/Eviscerate combo).
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 03:27 AM // 03:27   #18
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Are you talking about RA? or GvG. But these warrior builds are all GvG suited, especially the euro spike and shock warriors. In RA most warrior build should be more DPS oriented instead of Spike power. Because in RA it is more likely you would be dead before those precious adrenaline is built up (for you probably get no monk 80% the time). The builds should be focused on these questions if you wish to play good in RA warrior:

How do I deal good damage without that initial charge of adrenaline?
How do I dishout damage fast enough before I die?
How do I keep my self least live long enough to be useful?
How do I keep up constant DPS after killing 1 target?

I mean, in RA there is a different strategy to making effect warrior build. But imo, other than be hard to kill, warrior don't do well in RA. By the time they reach their enemy, they probably have leastt 3 or 4 hex or condition on them.
Imo warrior aren't that much effective at all in RA, assassin, on the other hand, can dish out damage much faster. If you go againist a sin in RA as a warrior with no adrenaline built up, the chances are that you will die, as that sin can dish out damage much faster using energywise skills and even with bad builds.
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Tips for Tards is a great title - had me laughing anyway
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Tips for Tards is a great title - had me laughing anyway
Almost makes me want to write an article of my own...
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